A Mandatory Helmet Law Could Be in Your Future

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December 15, 2011 | By: Patrick Garvin

So the government is trying to get Mandatory helmets? into your business again, sneaking through legislation that would force all 50 states to invoke a mandatory helmet law for all ages.

I’m writing this on Wednesday, having only caught wind of it earlier this week, so I have no idea what the outcome will be. But I can tell you this: Although I wear a helmet 99 percent of the time, I don’t believe that any other adult should have to do so. Fact is, I could care less if you want to wear a helmet or not.

For me personally, I’m a fairly aggressive rider and, combined with texting teen-agers and general dumbassery of the squares in the cages, I think a helmet gives me the best chance of making it home to my wife and seven-year-old every night. I’m just not a fan of a government that tells me I have to wear a helmet or that I can’t have a gun.

What’s next? Government issued “uniforms” consisting of slacks and blue blazers? Restricted to diets of veggies and NA beer?  If you’re pissed about the proposed helmet law, then call your elected officials and give them a piece of your mind. Otherwise, some dude in a $1,500 suit is going to make that decision for you.

The U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportationmet on Wednesday to mark up the Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 2011. It happens to contain three areas of critical concern to motorcyclists. Top of the list is the Lautenberg Amendment filed on Tuesday. Sen. Frank Lautenberg’s (D-NJ) amendment would basically force states to enact mandatory helmet laws across the board by strong-arming their funding.

States without a mandatory helmet law would be required to use 50 percent of their grant funds for the promotion of helmet use. This directly opposes what motorcyclists fought for in 2005 when the motorcyclists’ safety grant program was put into place to promote and fund motorcycle awareness, education and training programs. The proposed amendment would provide zero funding for education and awareness.

The second and third amendments are issues motorcyclists should probably want to support. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) has introduced an amendment that prevents federal tax dollars being used to lobby states to pass mandatory helmet laws. DeMint is also trying to stop the bill’s (SB 1449) altering of the definition of “motor vehicle equipment” to include motorcycle helmets. If approved, states could spend federal money dedicated to motor vehicle equipment on motorcycle helmets. The DeMint amendment would keep helmets out of the equation. Contact your local elected officials and voice your concerns about these proposals.

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I am69 years old a rider , last year a deer ran into me riding a roadking., I have a helmet that has one side almost wore thru from the asphalt, I rolled forty feet, wonder If I would be writing this if I had not had a helmet, jeans Jacked , boots and gloves on, spent the night in a trama center, thank god for helmets

You still have the right to not wear a helmet on your own roads, but you have to keep in mind that you and your neighbor all pay for the infrastructure of roads that you use to enjoy using your bike. I hate being told what to do, BUT this IS a safety issue.
You do not own the roads, you also don’t realize how much tax payer money goes into cleaning up a dead rider on the side of the road.
It’s not some money making scheme or something from the book 1984, It’s a purposed law because the average American is dumb as shit.
Which the flip side to that is I do honestly approve of thinning of the herd, but I’m not a fan of having my tax money pay for some idiot who hits a pot hole and dies when he lands on his head :/ $0.02

So you say the “average” American is dumb as shit. I disagree but I do agree that the average law maker is dumb as shit. They do not know the principals of our country like FREEDOM. & LIBERTY, nor apparently do you.

People good evening. I would like to give those that believe Helmet Laws are an infringement of your rights a little food for thought. Who do you believe should pay for the Medical and Funeral costs when the rider dies from preventable head injury and this also includes cheap novelty Helmuts. We must protect those not smart enough to protect themselves. I would wear a Helmet no matter what the law was and there are good comfortable one’s out there. I have a lot of experience in this area (Fatal Crashes) that I wouldn’t wish on anybody. Have you ever seen a headless corpes, a skull so bad you can’t recognize the face. I have and so many times I can’t even give you a count. Oh you otta try CPR while your giving air they are vomiting in your face. Been there. Now for the good part, telling the family. I have recieved a variety of responses. Wives beating on my chest calling me a liar, total histerical break downs screaming as hard as she could, a doctor had been called to give her a sedative but heard the screams as she drove up, got scared and drove away. I could go on and on but I think you get the picture. A helmet won’t save everybody but it has saved a lot of people including me. The brain is a delicate organ, one that controls everything. How would you like massive siezure’s on a daily basis from a good bump. Need I say More. I use to ride around with a priest to help me with the true victims here, YOUR FAMILIES. Thank You.
Jack Goebel
Blue Knights Law Enforcement Motorcycle Club

I live in a VERY rural area of ND. I’m 64 and have riding cycles since returning from VIETNAM where I was told we were fighting for FREEDOM! Now some suit wants to take my “CHOICE” away. I have been involved in 2 cycle crashes. NEATHER ONE MY FAULT& I had “CHOSEN” to wear a helmet. But there are many times when I feel it unnessary especially when locally riding. On major highways or strange places I may be comfortable wearing it. Because somebody “thinks” for me, is not reason enough to mandate use. I’ve a better idea. Before issueing motor vehicle licenses, everyone should HAVE TO OPERATE A MOTORCYCLE FOR A MINIMUM OF 1000 MILES. Maybe those caged drivers would wake up and SEE motorcycles.

Let me rip off your helmet with your head in it and puke down your throat! You must be a pig as your “blue” something or another has blinded your mentality. Typical blue badge BULLY! For those of us who fought for it, we found freedom is NOT free. Guys like you would sell your mother to the devil just to glorify yourself.

I have a good friend who is a cop, rider and motor officer. His take on helmet laws are that the insurance companies push them as they want you to wear one because with a helmet you are much more likely to break your neck and die, so the insurance companies only pay a death benefit and not life long care.

ALL of life has risk. It’s time we quit thinking we can legislate risk away. The riskiest thing most people do is get in their car everyday. But we all do it without even a thought.

No helmet laws! No protective gear laws! No reflective clothing laws. It is personal risk and personal choice!

For the government to be so concerned about the financial burden I may leave the state in the event of an accident, there seems to be no laws that reduce the number of ever-increasing welfare recipiants. I can guarantee we spend more money supporting sorry, lazy, check-collecting “unemployed”, parents of a half-dozen kids…with no laws banning them from reproducing more unsupported kids.
As a benefit to society and protection of the masses from economic responsibility from the decisions of the few…Where are those laws???

Interesting reading!

It’s the very reason we need the GUNS !!!!!

I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again. They call this the “land of the free” but they are taking away our freedoms more and more! I ride with a helmet but only to keep my face together. At the speeds I ride the bags under my eyes turn into speed bags & I can’t see a thing! (Glasses or not) (Not really one for goggles)

I was drafted and sent to Viet Nam when I was young. Not to many people cared much except for my folks and friends. I lived through 26 months of it. Now the government is is worried about me getting hurt or death?
Where in the HELL were these government people when me and my homies really needed them?

Welcome home vet bro. Appreciate your comment to which I say AMEN.

First time I ever heard of Jim DeMint doing something that meant sense (opposing helmet laws). Otherwise, he is a low down snake in the grass. I hope people don’t start thinking about voting for him just because of this one thing…

I think This is very offending!!!! Why should the Gov’t worry so much about Helmet laws when they should worry about Other important issues like tax spending. this just shows that they are just wasting OUR dollars for senseless laws. Even if you were to wear one. Your still gonna get hurt no matter what. This is just another one of F. Lautenbergs last stab before he leaves office. He should remember to wear his helmet. He may fall while using his walker!!!

I Agree with Greg. And wm rucker must not be a Vet. I fought for my rights and freedom. And if he feels that someone needs to tell him how to live with B.S. laws. Than he should move to a country where that is how they live.

Government “bans” objects and behaviors, such as not wearing a helmet, because it is easier and cheaper to pass such laws than it is to “promote” favorable behaviors. That’s why government goes after guns rather than promoting gun safety and putting into institutions the mentally ill who misuse all sorts of objects. It’s the easy way out for government. That said, a lot of you people vote for people who like to ban what they don’t like than promote what is good and what we do like. Helmet laws are your own fault because you voted into office those who have a “banning” mentality.

People like WM Rucker scare me more than riding with, or without a helmet! Imagine being accused of a crime with him (or her?) on the jury. Scary thought huh?!

Now guys like Steve Calder have it figured out!

Maybe the new helmet laws should also enclude convertibles, as drivers and passengers are as expossed as motorcycle riders and passenger.

Whether to wear a lid or not is a personal not a governmental choice. Is it smart to wear one probably, but still an INDIVIDUAL choice. Myself, I am a 50/50 user depending on my mood and conditions.

Whether to wear a helmet or not is a RIGHT of the INDIVIDUAL not the oppressive government whim to further their cause of a totally dependent populace. If you support the gvt. and are used to wiping with cottenalle be prepared to change to 400 grit sandpaper cuz it suits the gvt. better. As to the safety f ourselves, it is up to you the AMERICAN, the INDIVIDUAL to decide, not abunch of beurocrats that do not know up from down.

I had an accident on the second day I had my bike, jammed the rear wheel they say in a curve, unconscience for the next 20 days, no helmet. Still don’t want a helmet, however, if we allowed the seat belt laws then there is no reason the GOVERNMENT OF THE USA can’t enact rules about motorcycle helmets, after all most are probably way beyond riding two wheels even a bicycle much less a motorcycle and then there was the reason of seat belts, INSURANCE costs, for people hurt and killed same reason they will use for helmets.

This is in reply to MooG’s comment about “referring to the death of Indian Larry”.

Indian Larry went down on private property. He wouldn’t have been wearing a helmet anyway dipstick. It was fun to throw your 2 cents in anyway though huh..

They tried to withold federal funds in AZ to get us to pass a helmet law and the state fought it by saying it is bribery by the federal government. Too much big brother. Get obummer and all his croneys out now before they f-up all our lives.

What this really boils down to is the governments inability to keep the drunks and texters off the road. They can see that we’re being wiped out on a daily basis. So the manditory helmet law is a knee jerk reaction based on hypothetical and inaccurate information that is being rammed down the American bikers throats,, ( I say that because no one else cares),,in a smoke and mirror attempt to appear as they are doing something positive about the carnage on the highways,,It is not the non helmeted biker that instigates the vast majority of incidents that require a helmet to be considered.

sirbOOmdotcom dialed it!!!!!!

We all pay our Ins. premiums, I know I do and have never wrecked a motorcycle. so with that in mind just think how many other riders have not gone down but still pay for Ins. I would think there are tens of thousands in that category, this means this is all about $$$$$ and our politicians are bowing down to the Ins. company’s pressure. What happened to FREE AMERICA???

I have to laugh when I see the fools wearing helmets riding in shorts and a T-Shirt with sandals on their feet. I only wear a helmet when I’m in a state that requires it, or if it’s cold out I may wear it for warmth. The federal law already exists on federal property. When I go to visit my parents graves on the Rock Islanc Arsenal, they require not only a helmet, but you must also wear gloves and hard soled leather shoes (not tennis shoes).
I’ve been hit by cars while riding my bike twice in forty years of riding and neither time was I wearing a helmet. I suffered no head trama but had road rash the first time I was hit and broke my elbow, shoulder, and collar bone the second time. Are we going to mandate body armour along with helmets. I was fully insured and had medical insurance as well so it didn’t cost you whiners a dime.The people you are whining about supporting most likely were hit by someone that was driving a car without insurance and quite probably without a license. Helmet or no helmet, it should be my choice. On the other hand I wore my seatbelt in my car before it became a law, but I still disagree with any federal mandate to do so. Don’t even get me started on how I feel about drivers on the phone or applying makeup while driving. I’ve known cases where these drivers have killed bikers, and a helmet would not have saved them.
Democray allows for freedom and freedom allows for choice. Are you going to allow the feds to tell you what religion to practice or do you want to retain the freedom of choice, and what will you say to mandatory fingerprints and DNA samples in order to even have a license to drive. Where do you think we should draw the line and what makes you think we’ll even be able to if we give the federal government dictorial rights? I’m not against helmets, but I’m against a dictatorship telling me I must wear one.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg should be investigated immediately if his proposal passes. Now after politicians have made a mess of the enonomy they are ready to bleed ther constituents for money in the form of fines, taxes and fees for anything they can dream up. Which faily member or close freind of the Senator works for the helmet industry? In Illinois we fought and won this fight in 1968. We should be held hostage or blackmailed by our elected officials!

I live In Canada and love riding in the states without a helmet…why argue if its safer to wear a helmet or not ? to me thats not the point . It should be up to the individual.
we would be safer in cars wearing a helmet as well ( look at race car drivers) and their cars and harnesses are safer than ours..
Your safer in a Hummer than a compact….ban compacts.
Smoking kills…proven fact. I could ride the rest of my life and if Im defensive and cautious will NOT likely be effected by no helmet. But! One cannot smoke all their lives and not be ill affected! Wheres the logic?
If you argue that we not be covered if hit. Then smokers, the over weight, drinkers etc.. or if you drove sleepy, distracted or ran a stop sign. You shouldnt be covered either.
I for one would have no problem with paying a higher premium to ride without a helmet. Providing of course that everyone else thats NOT perfect pays one as well……WHAT??! No ones perfect?!…
nough said!

We wear helmets, but we both don’t agree that the government should require we do so. It’s up to our adult educational ability to decide on this issue.

To the dude who said he’s ok with me not wearing a tin so long as it’s then ok if the insurence co doesn’t pay let me tell you they dont cover you lid or not. To the Brit why not ban cigs as well then if you figure health care is only for those who don’t take 100% precautions. ps I dont ride as fast without a lid.

Obama-Care will end up requiring it if this type of a Highway Funds Hold -up doesn’t.

There won’t be any other Health Insurance except Cash to turn to as O-Care will have killed off the Insurance competition by then.

Get hurt without a helmet & no O-Care coverage will be the next order.

Obama-Care will end up requiring it if this type of a Highway Funds Hold -up doesn’t. There won’t be any other Health Insurance except Cash to turn to as O-Care will have killed off the Insurance competition by then.

Get hurt without a helmet, no O-Care coverage will be the next order.

i have been riding for 25 years. have had my share of mishaps. i always carry full coverage insurance. 2 of my mishaps, were my fault( because of inexperance ). i was lucky to turn out ok after some time on the couch. 3 times because of other drivers. 1 time a 87year old man turned left in front of me(without a turn signal). when picked myself and my son up off the ground from dumpping the bike. i asked him “didn’t u see me?” he said “see what?”. i decide right there that i needed to watch out for the other person on the road, because they don’t see me. another was a trailer truck on a corner. he was over the line coming at me. i tried to make the corner dumped it and back 2 vertabrea in my back. spent 9weeks in a back brace. the third one, 1 was on the highway and a utility truck in front of me was sweving so decide to pass and he drifts in front me and cuts me off at 70mph. i hti the brakes and miss him. i finally pass him, and look over and he is on a cell phone. look we need to teach people to look for motorcycles and other vehicles, and people, bikecycles,animals,drinki,texting being on the cellphone and drugs, basically pay attendtion when driving. we all thought that if we put seatbelts on we would save money,right….. there are points both ways on helmets. i believe that a helmet is maybe going to leave a nice face to bury. as far as who pays the bills, i try to carry enough insurance for that just in case. i served in the service. so i’m lucky there. but i did it to beable to make my own decidetions. so to finish. don’t tell me how to decide on how to best live my life. too many people have gave their lives and contune to give us the right to live our live the way we want.

i live in australia were it used to be up too you and now its up too them no dot lid no riding 300 buck fine and 3 demerit points we only get 12 every three years
i had a stack in 86 and broke my neck i didnt have a lid on the doc said if i did id be dead from the extra weight let those who ride deside
land of the free my a**

i got hurt in a slow speed accident a couple of years ago had insurance. they covered some of it but i had to cover the remainder of it. no other taxpayer paid for anything. so how do you figure taxpayers flip the bill?

Helmut laws are all bogus anyway. A few years back I did a lot of helmut research for a college paper I was doing and DOT themselves stated that no helmut was effective above 15 miles per hour so unless things have changed considerably, nothing has changed. Another thing the helmut sits on top of the head adding considerable weight. In an accident that additional weight adds significantly to the probability of a severed spinal cord at the base of the skull, due to the whiplash effect, and paralasys from the neck down. Personally I’d rather be dead than a vegitable and all my riding friends feel the same way. One more thing and I’ll get off my high horse, Helmuts have been determined, by all testing agencies, to be less than 1% effective in preventing any injuries during biking accidents. We had a bad one in 95 and had we been wearing a helmut the EMT flat stated we would not be alive to talk about it. What ever happened to freedom of choice? Big Brothers at it again! Nuff Said!

The state where I live has had this law for sometime now. I have been riding 30 years now and never been in an accident (knock on class monitor).
One day last summer while riding the hog, many state police were racing all around me. Come to find out, a dumb ass young adult (24) was doing over 100mph down the road I just pulled off. A car pulled in front of him, he hit the car, he became airborne while his motorcycle becoming imbedded into the side of the car, with helmet on; he went head first into a cars window a good 6 cars away from impact. He died.
The point of my story… Drive smart and live longer regardless of wearing a helmet.

As for me, I ride between 3,000 and 6,000 miles every year, depending on work, weather and other obligations/choices. I live in a “shall wear” state and would not wear if given my freedom of choice (unless it was cold/raining/hailing/etc.). I understand that others (some riders; likely most non-riders) don’t want to pay for medical upkeep of anyone injured in a motorcycle accident. If these persons actually checked into how many actual taxpayers dollars are used to pay for injured motorcyclists medical care, I think they would be surprised that it’s not as much as they think. The fact is that most injured motorcyclists have insurance (as required by laws in every state that I am aware of) and this insurance pays for most if not all of the required medical care. Aside from this, I do not believe we as United States citizens should abdicate our choices to be decided by the federal government. And to all who think motorcycles are more dangerous than cages, the overwhelming majority of motorcycle accidents that involve cages are caused by cage drivers not paying enough attention to the task at hand. They are either drunk, texting, talking on their cell phones that they cannot live without or simply just not paying attention. If you ask me, I believe it is the careless/ignorant drivers, not the mode of transportation, that is dangerous. Federal Government, when you start living by the laws that you impose on everyone else, and start giving out of your own pockets to all US citizens the benefits you give yourselves out of our pockets, then and only then will I consider giving you the decision to make any choices for me (I know, I’m only dreaming). Go Freedom. God Bless America and give our elected officials who are supposed to represent us the heart and mind to do so and to leave their own interests out of it.

PA voters are stupid, all they have to due is vote the stupid jerk out of office. But wait they are dumber than he is : They don’t know how to vote.

You don’t need a law to wear a helmet. If you want to wear one wear it.

Here’s neat fact MOST of America believes that you should have the right to decide for yourself (28 States allow you to decide for yourself).

Now that’s a GREAT Country!

I agree, it should be a matter of choice, not something big Brother imposes on you.

I am 46, been riding, been riding as an adult for almost 14yrs, and I wear a helmet every time I ride. Having said that, I don’t feel it is the Government’s place to protect me from myself. You don’t want to wear one, fine, have at it. For those who make the spurious argument about not having financial assets to take care of injuries without a helmet is a reason for the Government to do this, look in the mirror or get on a scale. Are you a disgusting fat body like Private Pyle? Do you have some other activity which is unhealthy that causes my health insurance to go up constantly? Even though I have to long term problems and have not made a claim on my insurance in a year? Seat-belt laws are the same way, and again I wear mine whenever I drive. End the Nanny state before we are regulated to death.

Hey I have no problem saying that in some situations a helmet will save your life but in in some situations wearing a helmet (combined with an accident) can kill you.

Even NASCAR recognized this fact when they mandated that every driver must use a HANS unit (head and neck restraint system).

BMW motorcycle company did testing on full face helmets years ago because they found that many riders were dying in slow speed crashes when the chin was rotated towards the neck creating basil skull fracture (same thing that killed Dale Earnhardt and Adam Petty) which basically pulls the brain off of the brainstem.

So if we’re going to discuss helmet use we need to recognize the dangers as well as the benefits of wearing one.

If wearing a helmet can save you, or kill you, it’s should always be your “CHOICE” as to whether you wear one.

Here’s a strange but true fact. Since the State of Florida repealed their helmet law, every single year the death rate of the “helmeted” riders has been higher than the “non-helmeted” riders. Crazy huh?

Now don’t get me wrong, it isn’t a massive difference in the numbers, the numbers are very close. But there are more riders with helmets on dying each year than non-helmeted riders in States that allow you to choose.

The truth is that most motorcyclists are not dying of head injuries, they are dying of BLUNT TRAUMA to the body. Most accidents are caused by another vehicle turning into the path of the motorcyclist. When your body comes to a dead stop from 45-55 mph (let alone 120 mph) you’re dead. With or without the helmet on you’re still dead.

If we truly care about the motorcyclist we need to teach them from day 1 of riding how to stay out of the accident to begin with. Many riders do not anticipate what is about to happen, and they put themselves into a bad position by driving too fast or by playing around (i.e. wheelies, burnouts etc.)

To stay alive as a motorcyclist you have to be alert, aware of your surroundings, slow down in most circumstances, speed up in some, NEVER ride side by side with any vehicle, plan on the guy with the left turn signal to turn RIGHT and it’s always good to have a little LUCK.

Keep in mind one thing…Bullshit makes the flowers grow…the government makes it overflow.

If all the medical professionals truly believed that helmets saved lives they would be wearing helmets themselves.

The point I’m trying to make is if we’re going to create a mandatory helmet law then let’s include everybody that drives.

We lose 43,000 cars, trucks, buses etc. each year.

Why do we only save the motorcyclists? Let me tell you why. Because it’s always easier to create a law for someone other than yourself.

With this mentality there will be mandatory life vest laws for anyone near a body of water. There will be mandatory “sunblock” laws for anyone out in the sun. SCARY huh!?

Here is a new American concept- Mind your own business.

There are a bit more than double the number of deaths in cars than in motorcycles. 42,000 – 19,000. BUT there are about 5,370,000 motorcycles each traveling about 1,800 miles per year and there are about 246,000,000 cars each traveling about 15,000 miles per year. The difference in deaths per mile driven is staggering. Certainly motorcycles are vastly more dangerous.
This is like claiming jumping off a 100 foot building is safer as only one person dies per year…Dur.

All of you folks pushing the point that the government has the “moral obligation” or “right” to create and enforce helmet requirements because, ultimately, your tax dollars go towards paying the medical bills of those who chose not to wear a helmet, got injured, and didn’t have 100% health insurance must have gotten hit in the head at some point, maybe ate lead paint? Let’s see, if Obama gets his way, we’ll have socialized healthcare so you’ll be paying for the healthcare of everyone who probably doesn’t pay NEARLY as much in taxes as you. Those people are statistically less likely to take care of themselves physically and mentally, so their cost of care will be huge over time. Would you support the government then telling you what you can and can’t eat, outlawing Coke, and telling you that you simply CANNOT ride a motorcycle because regardless of helmet it is extremely dangerous? No? Not to mention the quality of care in this country would disintegrate before your very eyes. Currently, everyone gets care. And, yes, sometimes taxpayer dollars go to pay for that care and the system isn’t great. But MOST of the time, whomever doesn’t have enough insurance gets a huge bill and is forced to find a way to pay it. So, most of the time, NO, you do NOT pay for someone who didn’t wear a helmet and got a head injury. So RELAX. Additionally, it is not within the constitutional mandate of the government to even come up with such legislation. It is the right of states. Hence the approach of cutting funding if a state doesn’t require helmets vs. simply writing direct legislation. That’s how the ridiculous 55 MPH speed limit was passed (never mind that, per capita, there are less accidents in Germany than the U.S. by far and I’ve personally gone 153 MPH there past the police, no issues). The more you allow your government to restrict you (even if it’s “in good nature”) the more they will continue to find ways to restrict you further. Your job, as an American, should be to make good decisions for yourself, family, and community, not allow the government to do so for you. If you want to wear a helmet, please do. If you don’t want to wear a helmet and you accept the associated risk, that is your choice. Will your injury potentially cost others money? Sure, it can happen. But far less than the cost of creating, enforcing, updating these laws and to support any legislation that sets precedent for the government to tell me how to live (or not live) MY life is anti-American.

Also, enough about helmets in cars. Not everything is a slippery slope. Cars are cages as many have pointed out. They have safety belts, crumple zones, air bags, and other safety features that motorcycles don’t and can’t have. Most of the safety features in cars were government mandates too by the way. The rider must protect himself because the bike cannot. The bike gets a headlight that stays on and turn signals that rarely get used. Why bother with leathers and a helmet when those fine safety features are there to protect me from others on the road? Better education for riders and drivers would help a lot, but that is left up to the states where there is no consistency. Want an endorsement and not have to do anything to earn it? Come to Arkansas!

A half helmet is as good as not wearing one. Motorcycles should have a cage. What about all the helmet wearing amputees? BB guns will put your eye out! Children should be kept in plastic bubbles! Being a heterosexual chick and riding for 25 years, I think there should be a law against same gender sexual harassment! Government…. always looking for an excuse to probe your nether regions.

Neither riding nor driving is a right. Both are privileges. We have the privilege to operate bikes and cars because we follow rules that help us create a community on our roads. While we may not like all of the rules, we do have to follow them. No one is taking your freedom away since the freedom did not exist in the first place. I think it’s absurd that helmets are not mandatory, but I also think the amendments were a little underhanded too. Instead of worrying about helmet freedom consider worrying about your educations (spelling, history, science, and math at least based on the comments).

Unless we’re willing to mandate a helmet on EVERYBODY that drives (remember 8 times as many car drivers are killed each year than motorcyclist) then we should let the motorcyclists (adult) decide for themselves.

Remember, if it (wearing a helmet) saves even one life then EVERYONE should wear one……….LOL (Yeah Right!)

Can you imagine the congressman and his wife going to a black tie event, both of them wearing a full face helmet in their BMW convertible? You and I both know that it’s not going to happen.

Why do we discriminate and only CARE about the motorcycle riders? Heck, let’s save EVERY driver.

Why don’t we make everyone fishing near the bank of the lake or river wear a life vest? You know how many people drown every year? (if it saves even one life……..you get the point by now don’t you?)

Try living your own life…..and leave everyone else alone.

I wear a helmet all of the time. Been down several times and every time there were scratches, dents, cracks in my helmet. But not once did I even get a headache.

I’ve ridden with too many guys that didn’t wear a helmet and now can’t ride either because they are dead, crippled, or a vegetable.

If you don’t want to wear a helmet that’s just fine with me! I have proposed for years that biker’s that don’t want to wear a helmet just provide proof of insurance that will cover their ER and surgery bills and a lifetime of hospice care. Then give them a different colored license plate to show proof that they have this extra coverage and off you go!

I don’t care if you want to scatter your brains up and down the road. I just don’t want to pay for the medical bills.

I had a friend two years ago take a late shot at a freeway off ramp and missed. He was lucky. He spent 6 months in a coma before waking up to being unable to control any body functions at all. He couldn’t talk, feed himself, wipe his own a**, or even hug his daughter.

His sister and daughter spent time with him every day for the next year and even though the doctors said he would never walk or be able to function again he did finally make it. But at great cost to his family.

They held fundraisers, he lost his business, he still had difficulty walking and talking, and he will likely never ride again. All because he didn’t wear a helmet which in his case WOULD have saved his brain from so much damage. The only bone broken in his accident was his skull!

So, get a big insurance policy to pay the nurses to change your diapers and ride your hearts out. Me, after 46 years on two wheels, I’ll keep my helmet on.

Unless we’re willing to mandate a helmet on EVERYBODY that drives (remember 8 times as many car drivers are killed each year than motorcyclist) then we should let the motorcyclist (adult) decide for themselves.

Can you imagine the congressman and his wife going to a black tie event, both of them wearing a full face helmet in their BMW convertible? You and I both know that’s not going to happen.

Remember, if it (wearing a helmet) saves even one life then EVERYONE should wear one……….LOL (Yeah Right!)

Why do we discriminate and only CARE about the motorcyclists? Heck, let’s save EVERY driver.

Why don’t we make everyone fishing near the bank of the lake or river wear a life vest (if it saves even one life……..you get the point by now don’t you?)

Try living your own life…..and leave everyone else alone.

I also carry plenty of insurance

Randy said it right!!! I too would support mandatory training long before helmet laws.
I believe the texters and cell users are more harmful and costly. Government has no business headbutting in. It’s my choice and say let freedom ride. 10k plus per year on my rubber.

the big question I have is where do you draw a line here a lot of people talk about oh will I don’t wanna pay for your actions I don’t think insurance company should cover your actions. how about the jacka$$ talking on cell phone and driving like morons should insurance company not cover his ass. get down to it most motorcycle accident caused by other people in cars so how you about you teach them f****** how to drive.

I ,Myself where a helmet 99percent of the time. its no differt then,the new cdl laws or dot rules its a bunch rich polititions telling you rules and regulations. That. Cant drive a mototcycle let alone a semi. C-mon man. Wtfk !!! They allready run this crazy world why can’t they let the LiL guy have some fun. ?

Remember….if you don’t like it (and I don’t) the vote the bastards out of office and regain control of our country!

if i ride without a lid and do crack my skull you may pay but if i ride without a lid and dont crack my skull you will still pay the same amount the only dif is instead of your hard earned tax dollars helping a fellow american it will be spent to study snails or sent to a foreign country and probably used aginst us or given to a some one whose career is living on welfare if i can find a way to pay less taxes because i wear a lid i will never ride without one again anyone that thinks forcing this on everyone should think of something they really enjoy and know someday someone will try to take that from you

OK we are all heros for riding motorcycles. You do your thing and let me do mine. Every new law takes away from our freedom of choice. I support the right of folks to make personal choices. I’m not for making a decision that impact other’s folks rights. I f you want to wear a helment enjoy it, and leave the rest of us alone.

i just want to say that the goverment has way more important things that need done that is way more important than harassing cyclyist about a sorry ass helmet law. how about getting americans back to work and stop selling out america to china and other countries,and then everyone can get back to being proud to be americans

have 2 brotherinlaws that were in bike vs cars both sustained minor injuries two different drs said if they had had helmuts on they both would be dead by the way their heads were snapped. Iwear on only because of too many dumbasses with cell phone attached to their ear and not paying attention

Just a couple of other considerations as to what to expect if the law becomes manditory. In Canada your helmet is considered a part of your bike, and you cannot ride without one. If you get pulled over and the helmet does not pass the “officers” discretion, ie, non DOT you are walking…literally, unless of course you can secure another helmet in the middle of nowhere. Add on a 100.00 fine…Insurance is also manditory and only available yearly in a riding season that lasts for most people around eight months. If you get stopped without insurance it is a 6000.00 fine.

Personaly I ride in the States alot, and ride both with and without a helmet. I can understand people not wanting to pay out monies for others injuries, however in my opinion that should be a seperate issue that pertains to manditory insurance, not manditory helmets. The helmet law can be easily manipulated by law enforcement to pull you over as their eyesight is about as keen as their discretion.

If the issue of insurance and helmets was kept seperate more money would not have to be spent on law enforcement to enforce those laws,,

My thoughts on helmets are varied, I’ve lost many brothers wearing a helmet in a crash, yet I believe that in certain conditions they do have a purpose.

My feelings on insurance are not so openminded, if you are on the road you should be covered.

Vote Republican and you won’t worry about stupid Nanny State stuff like this.

I want the politicians to run my life. I believe that although I am an adult, they can make better decisions than I or you can make. Look at how well Social Security is doing. It’s over 70 years old and not quite bankrupt yet! Look at how good our schools are compared to China, Japan, India. Don’t we love the government telling us how to live. We voted them in, now let them decide for us what is best for us. Our economy is much better than what the people in Zimbawbe have. Isn’t that enough proof.

I totally agree with you Glenn J….

Alrighty! For those of you that don’t believe it’s about the money, I’ve got some beautiful wetland I’ve been trying to sell…..
But to the point; for those of you that think the gov’t should force mc riders to wear helmets-what if the gov’t decides that riding a motorcycle is just to dangerous and costs the insurance too much money???
And they decide to outlaw bikes completely.

Outrageous thought but same logic your trying to use to support the law. It doesn’t work. Besides we ride for the feeling of freedom?? What freedom is there in the gov’t making decisions for us……

I wear a helmet most of the time, which is completely beside the point.

For everyone using the insurance line of crap to justify a helmet law just remember for every motorcyclist laying in a hospital bed with brain injuries there are 7 overweight, alcoholic, car drivers who smoke lying in the hospital bed next to them taking up our tax dollars to take care of them. If you want to use that argument you will lose every time.

50 years riding. One highside with a helmet. Cracked it in half. Once is all it takes. Kinda like still being here. Kinda like having a son that wouldn’t have been born without it. What I do not like is high insurance premiums from under insured or not insured at all. Even if you have insurance it will not cover it and my premiums still go up. That’s my money, not yours. I also live in a no fault state so the whoever is wrong and pays doesn’t apply here. Just my raised rates reguardless. I put up with this one sided, have no rights from smokers. Seems like you only see your veiw point and forget about what happens to others as they do not count. 9 out 10 times you can have a near miss. It’s that tenth one that gets you.

I am in my 60th year of riding, always with a helmet. Been down hard twice, helmet saved me from spending my days in a home trying to eat jello with a fork at taxpayers expense. Only an idiot would go out and mix in with the cage-nuts on cel phones without using every bit of body protection available. (Of course, there are a lot of idiots out there or BHO would not be in office.) Since accidents take taxpayers money to solve, treat and rehabilitate, let’s do this: No Helmet, No EMT, No Ambulance, No paid emergency room, No insurance coverage, etc. Then I say it’s Ok to ride without one…sign a waiver for all of the above and carry it prominently on your bike or wear a neck tag. Take responsibility for your ignorance instead of making others pay and pay and pay. Seat belts save lives, crush zones save lives, air-bags save lives, etc., and all are government mandated. Fact: Helmets save lives. You disagree? Have someone “tap” you on your bare head with a ball bat, then “tap” you with a helmet on. End of discussion.

Look think about other people for once we need a law so some folks will have to wear something that will keep MY insurance down I don’t wanna pay for you freedom grow up

Here in Australia it is COMPULSARY to wear a helmet in all states with VERY HEAVY FINES if you dont, we have a dictorship here with all our know-it-all idiot polititions and mostly lazy & or useless Public Servants, DONT LET THE GOVT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO IN THE U.S. with this proposed helmet rubbish. Have been riding since 1972 and HATE having to wear a helmet most times especially in summer when we can get up to 48deg C. Rgds Teke Australia

Just my 2 cents… I wear a lid 100% of the time by my own choice… and think it is a great ideal. But I am not going to tell someone else that they should do the same.. however I have rode with other that once we crossed state lines have been stopped for not wearing their lids. So either way the government is going to make money off us.. like I said just my 2 cents.

I’ve been in a couple of crack-ups without a helmet, and I am still able to compose this comment — strange that I can do this, eh? Since our all-knowing state government requires insurance, no one will have to pay any expenses if I get whacked by some do-gooder on a cell phone, whether or not I wear a lid. It seems that more laws are concocted each year to curb law-abiding citizens’ rights. How many choices do we still have the freedom to make for ourselves? Not many. Next I expect the government to pull some stunt like the one to discredit legal, law-abiding gun owners so that antigun laws could get passed. It’s a control game; you and I are the people who are being set up to be controlled. By the way, did you notice that big insurance premium reduction you got when the seatbelt law was passed? Neither did I.

I live in a helmet law state, MA, and have always worn one even when I drop down into CT that has no such laws. Have gone down 2 times on the dirt bike hard during enduros, concussions, woulda been dead, one on the street because of other vehicle, would have been dead as well, a fact, not a freedom speak… but if you don’t want to wear a helmet don’t, should be your choice… just don’t expect any police, EMT, or hospital to sponge you up if something happens or for any hospital ER to admit you and pay for your decision with any of my tax dollars.

Alot has been said that this about control or collecting revinue or stomping on our freedom. Which is true. But, from the gov’t point of view it’s acually about paing revinue. Over 50% of the people that sustained head injuries in MC crashes that were NOT wearing helmets before the law in Claifornia was passed did not have health insurance to cover thier medical emergency and rehab expenses. Who do you think had to pay the bill? If those people had paid for health insurance we would have never seen these laws come about. BUt for the feds to get involved is a wrong and they are overstepping the boundry of what the feds should be invovled in. Let the States do thier job!

Alot has been said that this about control or collecting revinue or stomping on our freedom. Which is true. But, from the gov’t point of view it’s acually about paing revinue. Over 50% of the people that sustained head injuries in MC crashes that were NOT wearing helmets before the law in Claifornia was passed did not have health insurance to cover thier medical emergency and rehab expenses. Who do you think had to pay the bill? If those people had paid for health insurance we would have never seen these laws come about. BUt for the feds to get involved is a crock!

Here’s what it’s all about. MONEY. Leave the helmet law off the books. Require riders w/o helmets to carry a 5 million dollar medical policy to keep the government (that’s you & me) from paying lifelong medical costs for someones personal choice. Also, riders that choose to not wear should be required to have themselves, spouses and dependents sign off from Social Security benefits due because of an irresponsible choice

I am sick and tired of BIG BROTHER trying to force us to do things that should be our own choice. The seat belt law is one of these and now they are wanting to do this with helmets what is next. They will be trying to tell us who to date and marry and if we don”t they will take away our state money. We need to stand up now, if we don’t this country as we know it is gone.

Government requires alot from us. And requiring us to wear helmets is something they should do. Do I want to pay for your extra medical bills becuase you want the air in your hair and you hurt yourself? How about my time stuck on the freeway becuase you fell down and now your dead and it makes me late to work becuase you didnt wear a helmet. And if you live I’ll be paying to have the government take care of you. There is a reason that people who race motorcycles wear helemts. It’s to save their lives.

If you believe that motorcycles are inherently more dangerous than a car you should not be riding one in the first place. I believe a driver using what is between their ears is more secure than one wearing all the protective gear they can find. Good training, practice and, use of survival skills will help much more than a helmet law ever could. I would support mandatory training long before helmet laws.

Been riding since I was 16 and before that if you count Briggs mini bike.

I crown a helmet from time to time and find it works best in the rain.
I’ve been in a few spills and I never had a spill when I had a helmet on so I don’t know if they work or not,
I do know I was riding the HWY when an 18 wheeler blew a tire and rubber flew every where including brushing the side of my face, I was lucky that day and you don’t always need to hit the ground to need a helmet.

Here in North Dakota we have lots of wild life on the roads mostly birds that go for the bugs and grain left behind by trucks, the pheasants are the worst they fly right into you head.

I like helmets but I don’t always use one, and to pass a law with threats of fines is just plain and simply bullying and at age 51 I don’t respond well to that type of action……

I joined the Fight
Freedom Lost

Wear a helmet don’t wear a helmet your choice. The goverment does not need any more reasons (laws) to make money off our backs. This is a no brainer. Now from the hard working only tax payers out here who believe they have to pay for only bikers errors of not wearing a helmet. Your going to pay the goverment taxes any way some times that money goes to people that should have worn a helmet. Every day your taxes are paying for a prison cells, or a drug addicts recovery, and millions of other reasons some one did not do something that we thought they should of done. You are not going to change those people either or the amount of money being spent there. So figure it out this is about Laws and a way to seperatre your hard earned dollars from your pocket to show you they have the power pure and simple. With or without helmets people are going to get hurt they will still need to be taken care of. We do not need the goverment trying to save us all. Where od you draw the line? You decide for your self, for your family, but do it for them, do it for you, and not because some fat cat in DC tells you to. Wake up AMERICA

if i remember correctly wasnt larry standing on his seat when he met his demise? what a shame
as far as wearing a helmet it is not anybody’s business, wear one or not its not up to me to tell you. why dont we ever hear any crying about how much it cost’s to give prisoners what they want.

I wear a helmet 99% of the time too but I am against this type of law. And for those of you who feel differently, the next step by the government is to mandate helmets in cars. Then listen to some people change their tunes.

Indian Larry was stunt riding and damn well should have had a helmet. BUT It was his choice. mind your own business.

Every law passed is a free right gone. You will never get back. We have so many laws states pick and choose the ones they want to enforce. It’s all about revenue. They give a shit about your dead friends. But once you lose the choice you will never get it back. If that how you want to live move to Europe. Just keep your nose out of my a** and off my head!!

if i remember correctly wasnt larry standing on his seat when he met his demise? what a shame,
helmet laws are only a way for a few to control the many. wear one if you want, dont if you dont. its not up to me to tell you what to do
as far as supporting someone who gets hurt, why dont we ever hear the crying when it comes to giving the people in jail what they want

Been riding since early 70′s. Also am a therapist who has seen lots and lots of head injuries and deaths from riders not wearing helmets. Many times riders carry the minimum insurance and the state ends up eating the bill along with the wife caring for the poor sap the rest of his life since he is in a veggie state. Hay, I’m for the rider signing off all responsibility to the state so that he can “ride free” and not have anyone tell him he has to wear a helmet.

OH PS Excuse the typos … I have Cerebral Palsy & Have involuntary movements But when I ride I am fine. Now shut up and ride FREE!

Mysef I personally feel if the government wants to wear helments Let them . But dont interfear with my freedom of choice. I cant wear helmets the strap is located around my throat & will make me gag. I had been riding my own motorcycles for 28 years now & no helmets I am still alive I crashed hard 2 years ago broke some bones but my head ia not one of them. Hey Uncle Sam…Ask the EMTs about helmets how they kill more than save lives because the weight of the helmet breaks the neck if they dont kill ya the make you into a quadpalegic
NO THANK YOU! Dont tell me what to wear & I wont have to break your stipid laws.

GlennG said it all. If you choose to not weat a helmet, then you should be required to purchase insurance to cover your head injuries, and perhaps lifetime care. I don’t want to have to pay for your medical expenses that you could have avoided. There may very well be more head injuries in car accidents and football and skiing, but in all of those, whoever caused the accident is liable in the courts for medical expenses of the others they injured. If you do anything “dangerous” from the point of view of your insurance company, they’ll want more bucks out of you, and they should. Skydiving, piloting a plane, rock climbing, if you choose to squish your brain when you had a choice, taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for you. You wear your leathers, you wear proper boots, probably gloves. How is protecting your brain less important than avoiding a little road rash? What do you think when you see the goofball riding down the street on his crotch rocket wearing cut-offs, a T-shirt, and flip-flops? I think, “What a moron, but I hope he’s insured”.

If protecting ourself from ourself is the issue then we need to make safety glasses and hearing protection law when mowing the lawn. If wasting tax payers money is the issue, I’ll listen to you’re argument as soon as waste, freeloading and overspending is addressed. My gosh people, wake up, it’s your personal freedom they are taking away from you!! How can you not see that!!

Ok, where does it stop? Should we wear helmets? Yeah, probably so. Should we wear seatbelts? Sure,whatever. But I dont want to be told that I HAVE to. It comes down to personal responsibility. If we let the govt (safety police)get into every little aspect of our life, where does it stop? So, whats next? Orange padded jumpsuits the have to be DOT approved?? Airbags on motorcycles?? Catalytic converters that put out a nice little fruitly smell so you dont offend other drivers??? COME ON!!!

It’s all about controll and money. big brother.

I’m 72 years old and have been riding since I was 9 years old. That’s right, 63 years! for about 50 of those years there was only one rule. Stay on the right side of the road and keep your eyes open.
I”ve only been in one accident/incident, the other guy got killed, nothing that a helmet would have prevented.
The constant improvision of more and more restrictive laws aimed at motorcyclists is no fluke! Those guys pass those laws for the kickbacks and benefits they receive. They could care less about what you want. They’re only there for financial gain and political advancment!
There is going to be a great increase in motorcycle traffic on our roadways in the comming years due in no small part to the cost and availability of fuel. Wake up America! motorcycles are everywhere!
Want to stop or repeal the madness? Vote the scumbags out of office and vote in those that would represent us.

Typo 8000 miles per year

Typo…8000 miles per year…

I beg to differ. I have been riding for 37 years an average of 800 miles every year. I have seen numerous bikers hit by turning cars and even a few of my less smart friends falling off at 100 mph while attempting a wheelie. In this case, he slid down the central barrier with his head rubbing on it to such a point his helmet wore through to the foam. To my surprise, due to his protective choice he got up and sat till we called the ambulance. He had a colapsed lung and thats all.
I myself have come off at various times at speeds up to 70 miles an hour and each time, my protective choice saved my ass.
With distracted drivers on cell phones and generally many more cars on the road, it just makes sense to protect yourself. Finally if any of you go to motorcycle racing, there is all the proof you need to see that helmets DO work, as does the correctly fitting boots and leathers. Its not about macho image and traveling from bar to bar, its about doing wahts right for your safety and safety of others.

I always wear a helmet. As an Emergency Services Worker, I’ve seen tto much, and nobody here is debating the issue of helmet safety anyway. The debate is over these arses in DC making us do what they want! these are the same arses that make marijuana illegal at a federal level. They need to wake the phaq up and worry about important shite like getting peeps in this country jobs!

let thoses who ride , deside…

I choose to wear my helmet and so does my wife, i have been in two low speed accidents, cracked one helmet when my head hit the ground, 35mph, walked out of the hospital both times within 4 hours. what caused the accidents was some dumb a** texting and talking on the phone not paying attention to there driving.
If you want to die sooner it should be your choice.
Texting and talking on a mobile phone is a complete different problem that should addressed to keep us drivers and passengers on any road safer.

“Those willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both.” Benjamin Franklin.

It’s not about the helmet, it’s about the big picture. I don’t want to be on a 250 one day because it’s safer.

I was extremely relieved to see that Sen, Lautenburgs amendment was withdrawn. I have personally been involved in the fight for freedom of choice for the past 24 years, 10 of those as State Coordinator of ABATE of Montana. We have fought numerous helmet law battles at the State level and managed to repeal the old Federal mandate back in 96.
Just a few facts that most people do not know. First off, a motorcycle helmet under FVMSS218 is tested to a MAXIMUM speed of 13.4 MPH. I was once told by a DOT engineer, that there was no physical way that a helmet could be made that would protect you above that speed and still be wearable.
Secondly, to those folks who think that motorcyclist’s represent an unfair tax burden due to exercising the Freedom to choose, consider the fact that there are far more head injury cases in hospitals all over this country from car accidents,skiing accidents, football accidents etc.
If you want to give the insurance industry the right to not pay out on an accident claim because I made my choice, then I suggest you extend that same courtesy to all those other poor unfortunates that in most cases ended up injured through other drivers carelessness and ineptitude.
I strongly urge all riders to take an MSF training course, and to get involved in their local chapter of ABATE or MMA, or whatever organization is in your State helping to protect the rights of all riders.
On the National level, we have two great organizations NCOM (National Coalition of Motorcyclist’s) and the MRF (Motorcycle Riders Foundation). Both of these fine organizations have many dedicated volunteers who have spent countless hours lobbying government on your behalf, and not just about motorcycle helmet laws.
Thankyou for taking the time to listen and hopefully take some action on your own part.

I think they should require a helmet while in a car then!. Its a proven fact that those dill holes would be safer as well!

Whoever said it’s all about money is misinformed and not thinking straight. What it is about, is about me, and every other tax paying citizen, protecting ourselves from the huge costs incurred by someone enjoying a high risk activity and getting seriously hurt and not having 100% full coverage health insurance. I end up paying for their healthcare. With seat belts and helmets I minimize my risk of paying for their care.
Someone else said “it’s no one’s business but my own.” WRONG! If I have to pay for your hospitalization it’s my business too.
The only way these self-centered comments would be correct is if each bareheaded rider were to post a $500,000.00 bond for their healthcare, or forced to have health insurance like in the Obamacare law.

Whoever said it’s all about money is misinformed and not thinking straight. What it is about, is about me, and every other tax paying citizen, protecting ourselves from the huge costs incurred by someone enjoying a high risk activity and getting seriously hurt and not having 100% full coverage health insurance. I end up paying for their healthcare. With seat belts and helmets I minimize my risk of paying for their care.
Someone else said “it’s no one’s business but my own.” WRONG! If I have to pay for your hospitalization it’s my business too.
The only way these self-centered comments would be correct is if each bareheaded rider were to post a $500,000.00 bond for their healthcare, or forced to have health insurance like in the Obamacare law..

This is kind of funny, in the email newsletter I got you have this outrage over helmet laws, then in the same mail it has a Remembering Indian Larry, if Larry would have been wearing a helmet while screwing around at a slow speed he wouldn’t need remembering, he’d be alive today………….

The whole point of riding for me is freedom. A helmet just supresses that freedom in my opinion. If you nut cases are afraid of someone getting your hard earned money and tax dollars then why don’t you ban motorcycles, why go for helmet laws. Motorcycles mean freedom to me and I only wear a helmet when I am required to…I am 62 yrs old and should be allowed to make my own decisions concerning my health and well being.

Good God…The reason that the Goverment has to get involved is that we are so dumb that we do not wear helmets in the first place. Most motorcycle deaths occur at speeds of 33 miles per hour or less. That is all it takes to crack a skull and cause brain damage. It not a case of freedom of choice but being smart enough to protect yourself from injury. Europe has reduced the motorcycle death rate by over 60% in the last 10 years by inforcing not only helmet use but also manditory training and it takes a period of 4 years before you can ride high performance unlimited bikes. This SAVES huge amounts of TAXPAYERS money. And before you say that “you a real biker, the avrage european biker rides on vaerage three times more miles than a US one. Rain Snow or shine and not on long straight roads…

Stop going on about goverment interferance when the point is they have too as we are too stupid to do the right thing ourselves.

The bunch of incompetents currently on Washington can’t pass any kind of legislation. Worst bunch we’ve ever had representing us. It’ll be at least 5 years or so before they pass anything. Write your representatives often and voice your opinion. They won’t listen to you but it’ll make you feel better.

Well Mr. 60gunner. You are not the only one who put your A** on the line. Many others and my self have too. I believe that anyone who chooses to ride without the bucket has that right. I know that myself and almost everyone else, has insurance that covers our A**. So don’t worry your little wallet over it. Because no one wants your damn money. We just want to be left the Hell alone!

I dont see what the issue is about. I myself wear mine even when not required to do so. Not to debate it, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But for the family members who have had their loved biker laying up in the hospital with their brains hanging out and fathers and mothers no longer alive to care for their children because of some mishap while riding. Dont only think about your “freedoms” to ride without, think about others who love bikers too. If a brain cap helps you stay around longer for your family on the off chance that you wreck, why not?

I wear a helment 99% of the time because thats my choice.I think every adult chould have the choice to wear or not to wear.This was at one time a free country,stop surrendering our freedom!!!!!!!

I live in a state that requires helmets but I wear one for the same reason I use my seatbelts when I’m in my cage, I think it’s safer for me. What you choose to do is your business and not my concern or the business of our socalled leaders in DC. If you are concerned with my safety get the assholes to shut off their cellphones when they are on the road!

I live in a state that requires helmets but I wear one for the same reason I use my seatbelts when I’m in my cage, I think it’s safer for me. What you choose to do is your business and not my concern or the business of our socalled leaders in DC. If you are concerned with my safety get the a**holes to shut off their cellphones!

Tell you what ‘mr. survival of the fittest’ … when you get busted up, have enough cash in YOUR pocket to keep your hands out of MY pocket when you need medical care. I’ve already put MY life and freedom on the line for YOUR right to pen this crap, I’m not putting my wallet up next !

Next thing they will be trying to put seat belts on motorcycles…and Indian Larry is a good example of what happens when you no longer respect a motorcycle. My brothers best friend was killed in a very very low speed motorcycle accident…he WAS wearing a helmet…matter of fact it was the helmet that caused his fatal injury. Middle fingers to the U.S. government! Leave us alone.

First off if the gov’t that we supposedly put in office they would start protecting our kids from all the crap that is sent here from foreign countrys that causes real long time harm…then when they start in on helmets that mfg. make money off of us the riders of america we might back away but at 100 bucs a pop they will change standards every couple to make us by them again nation of consumers my a** nation of sheep is what we have become // stand in line cause big gov’t and big business go hand in hand for the demigod democracy, WAKE UP AMERICA….its our country after all CJ

I personaly wear a lid because I have had 2 friends die and 1 now in a comma for 2 years and I have seen what it does to the families and friends. Saying that I do not feel it is the governments right to make our personal safety choices for us just like seat belts.

i dont get it..growing up in Britain with hardly a straight road, it was manitory to wear a helmet. Its o.k. if you dont want to wear one, but if you get plastered and paralysed who pays? We do the tax payer. yes keep off my body, but you know those who are stupid enough not to ride with an approved helmut if you crash and are seriously injured dont expect the tax payer to cover for someting self inflicted…stupid…..

Here’s to no helmet laws. We need to thin the herd before these genes can be passed on.

What this all boils down to is money. This is insurance and medical industry lobbying just like they did for the seat belt law. Its all based on statistics and the amount of profit lost that influences these bills. Once again their premise is” its for you own protection”. Another example of big business influencing the very fabric of our liberty. By the way I don’t have to wear a helmet in the state I live in, but I choose to and that’s my business.

Poster Eric Carr above nailed it with his comment. The state, unfortunately, does have the moral right to demand helmet use because when someone becomes sustains brain damage in a crash the taxpayer ends up paying the bill.
While we’re at it, get laws passed that allow the insurance company to vary their rates and/or payout liability depending on helmet usage.

If you can remove my liability as a taxpayer, so that I don’t have to take care of you and raise your family after your fall, then I will fight to the death alongside you to get the government out of your life and let you ride w/o a helmet.

Riding since 1970, with lots of years to think about it- that’s my 2 cents.

I’m fine without a helmet law. I choose to wear one. Should you choose NOT to wear a helmet & you get injured in an accident….I’m for the insurance company choosing not to cover your hospital expenses.

From the ABATE Florida Website.
It looks like Lautenberg chickened out…

http://abateflorida.blogspot.com/

FEDERAL HELMET LEGISLATION NARROWLY AVERTED

Due to the quick actions of concerned motorcyclists across the country, a major federal transportation measure narrowly avoided becoming a bill to encourage states to enact helmet laws nationwide.

On Monday, December 12 Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) filed an amendment to S.1449 the “Motor Vehicle and Highway Safety Improvement Act of 2011″ that would call for mandatory helmet laws nationwide and could jeopardize funding for Motorcycle Safety programs across America.

By Tuesday the motorcycle community was alerted to Lautenburg’s efforts by national and state motorcyclists’ rights organizations, including the National Coalition of Motorcyclists (NCOM) and numerous NCOM Member Groups, and riders were urgently urged to contact their U.S. Senators to oppose the amendment — and time was of the essence because a Senate committee was to vote on the bill the following day!

Wednesday, Dec 14, during the hearing held by the U.S. Senate Commerce, Science & Transportation Committee to “mark-up” the bill, Senator Lautenburg decided not to introduce his amendment.

Not only did motorcyclists’ prompt response help avoid another federal helmet law battle and preserve federal funding for motorcycle safety programs, but the committee also voted to accept two amendments by Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) that removed language in the bill that would have lifted the current ban on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) from lobbying states to enact universal helmet laws for all riders.

S.1449 passed the committee by voice vote and now goes to the Senate floor for further action, while riders remain ever vigilant.

Its no wonder our country and its states are broke. Poking their uninvited noses into our collective business. They fail to remember we voted for them and they work for us , not the other way around. We do not need nor want a federal helmet law. If common sense were cash money , this country’s government couldn’t buy a gumball. Stop taking away our freedoms (of choice)and stop trying to protect us from ourselves, ever hear of “survival of the fittest?”.We left Great Britain because of taxation without representation, this isn’t very far from that.

@Clif:

You mean like http://www.abateiowa.org/?

It’s not about helmets. It’s about control! If individual freedom means something to you, call your Congressmen before the “Nanny State” confiscates your phone.

uncle sam is at it again telling us what to do it is about time we take this country back. i am damn tired of them telling me what i can do and cant do. it took me 30 years to get a motorcycle indorsement, and maybe another 30 years to put on a lid it is my choice.

Every time BIG Bro gets involved with something they screw it up!Vote all the lieing bast_ _ _ s out of office! OOPS! Then there wouldnt be no one in office!

please refer to death of Indian larry

The Motorcycle Riders Foundation is all over this. They are the only national organization dedicated soley to working for the freedom of street motorcyclist. They have an office in DC with a full time lobbyist. They need your help, check them out and join at mrf.org. They have an email alert system that notifies you you of DC activity. Sign up for that at mrf.org

Attention!
At first helmets became mandatory in Europe. After some years they set the so called EC-Standard for helmets. Allegedly cause of technical development the standard changes every two or three years ( good bargain for the Stealers!).
Today e.g. in Italy if they get you with a non EC-standard helmet these f……. b……. confiscate your scoot and you have to pay $ 1000 fine and bring a standard helmet to get your scoot back.
I like to be on a motorbike in th USA.
CU on the road

Can’t anyone think beyond their fuel tank ? I know two cats who laid it down – hard – and now because THEY don’t have the jing to pay for what a brain bucket could have avoided, I AM ! And you will too when pals of yours end up in a state facility on the dole !

Its funny they want to this, ive seen more riders with helmets since we got rid of the stupid law then when it was mandatory!

I’m from Canada ,and I go to Maine and New Hampshire to enjoy riding without helmet.You have the chance in some state to have this freedom,please
dont change that!You have a wonderful contry.

People nromally pay me for this and you are giving it away!

Launternberg’s last great stab at the Stalin award was the 55MPH for the whole country, how well did that work?

State troopers in Pa are as******,they thrive on this sh*t.I see troopers in the spring on roads they never been on lookin for inspections and loud pipes.We are basically a communistic country and cant see the forest for the trees.If you dont believe it try starting a business or doing anything and watch how many people will tell you what you can do and cant do.. and mostly your neighbors!!Everyones got thier nose in everyone elses sh*t,especially politicians that dont even own a scooter!thanks to abate we been able to throw the brain buckets in the corner for now,thanks man!!

Freedome of choice, it’s what this country was built on. I choose to wear a brain bucket 100% of the time because I want to. Not because some out-of-touch politician, who’s getting a kickback from the helmet industry, says I have to.

I think cell phones and texting are a bigger transportation safety issue than motorcycle helmets.

@Clif, no crying here…was a member of the Southernmost Chapter.

Sometimes I choose to put a lid on but living out here in the western states where cars are few and far between its often my choice to go without. It’s no ones business but my own.
-Rustyhammer

Bud,

Instead of crying about helmet laws, form a group like Florida. http://www.abateflorida.com. It really works!

They’ve already made seat belts mandatory so why would this be any different? Bottom line, it’s all about collecting revenue. Now they won’t only be able to nail you for not wearing a lid but also tack on an extra fine if it’s not DOT approved. It’s BS. Keep your laws off my body, Uncle Sam. Or should I say Big Brother?

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